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		<title>Comment on Our peace at the cost of others by ???????</title>
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		<title>Comment on This minute by Graham</title>
		<link>http://fedbyravens.net/archives/555/comment-page-1#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 04:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of us choose such a path because it is not possible (John 3:1-21).

In the time of Jesus and the disciples Judaism was commonplace... the trust in time-tested and hard worn principles and rules that a person would grow up practicing and so ensure a well balanced life that pleased God.

Christians introduced the new guiding rule of &quot;by faith&quot; which at the time meant that all previous reliable practices and habits were superseded and broken away from, giving these followers of Jesus the authority and license to please God in any way they saw fit, no matter how different from the accepted norm.

Nowadays I don&#039;t think the language of &#039;by faith&#039; is adequate as a guiding principle for Christians since liberalism and belief are actually now the norm.  Perhaps we could borrow another of the disciples&#039; words &#039;by grace&#039; to better communicate the uniqueness of the Christian message in todays world.

&#039;by grace&#039; means that all we know, all we own, all we feel, even all we believe has been superseded &#039;by grace&#039;.  To recognise in today&#039;s church and society those who are Christian is to look for those who hold on to nothing, who speak of nothing, who believe nothing, who are nothing.  To recognise your brother you look for him who waits for God to reveal his Son.  You look for a person who hopes for Jesus this minute, who is tired, bored, sick, angry, frustrated, depressed at the waiting... Jesus&#039; appearance can only ever take one minute too long.

&#039;by grace&#039; are those who are done with everything!  God knows those who are his!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of us choose such a path because it is not possible (John 3:1-21).</p>
<p>In the time of Jesus and the disciples Judaism was commonplace&#8230; the trust in time-tested and hard worn principles and rules that a person would grow up practicing and so ensure a well balanced life that pleased God.</p>
<p>Christians introduced the new guiding rule of &#8220;by faith&#8221; which at the time meant that all previous reliable practices and habits were superseded and broken away from, giving these followers of Jesus the authority and license to please God in any way they saw fit, no matter how different from the accepted norm.</p>
<p>Nowadays I don&#8217;t think the language of &#8216;by faith&#8217; is adequate as a guiding principle for Christians since liberalism and belief are actually now the norm.  Perhaps we could borrow another of the disciples&#8217; words &#8216;by grace&#8217; to better communicate the uniqueness of the Christian message in todays world.</p>
<p>&#8216;by grace&#8217; means that all we know, all we own, all we feel, even all we believe has been superseded &#8216;by grace&#8217;.  To recognise in today&#8217;s church and society those who are Christian is to look for those who hold on to nothing, who speak of nothing, who believe nothing, who are nothing.  To recognise your brother you look for him who waits for God to reveal his Son.  You look for a person who hopes for Jesus this minute, who is tired, bored, sick, angry, frustrated, depressed at the waiting&#8230; Jesus&#8217; appearance can only ever take one minute too long.</p>
<p>&#8216;by grace&#8217; are those who are done with everything!  God knows those who are his!</p>
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		<title>Comment on This minute by Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30 in 100? 70 in 250? Very unlikely. Those statistics are meaningless if anybody cared to look at them more closely. The &#039;Christian&#039; label applies generally at a  cultural level in some countries, but there is often little evidence of any appreciation as to what &#039;Christian&#039; might mean apart from having seen the inside of a church at some point in ones life. 

Jesus said  &quot;But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.&quot; (Matthew 7:14). I think we we get a better idea of how many follow the way when we look at the number of Christians in cutures where there ther is no Christian culture to speak of, and where bing a christian results in significant hardship. Numbers like 1% and 2% often come up in those contexts. Even in australia, more conservative figures put numbers at between 3% and 8%.. if you extract the significant cultural pull of church culture (The Baptists, for example, experience more growth through procreation than conversion) we are probably looking at a similar proportion of the population. 

Few of us seek God sincerely to risk everything we have and everything we are for him. Few of us choose to follow the narrow winding path.
The question is: when there is nobody around the corner waiting to set us on fire for our faith, to destroy our homes, to take our children, how do we really know where we stand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30 in 100? 70 in 250? Very unlikely. Those statistics are meaningless if anybody cared to look at them more closely. The &#8216;Christian&#8217; label applies generally at a  cultural level in some countries, but there is often little evidence of any appreciation as to what &#8216;Christian&#8217; might mean apart from having seen the inside of a church at some point in ones life. </p>
<p>Jesus said  &#8220;But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.&#8221; (Matthew 7:14). I think we we get a better idea of how many follow the way when we look at the number of Christians in cutures where there ther is no Christian culture to speak of, and where bing a christian results in significant hardship. Numbers like 1% and 2% often come up in those contexts. Even in australia, more conservative figures put numbers at between 3% and 8%.. if you extract the significant cultural pull of church culture (The Baptists, for example, experience more growth through procreation than conversion) we are probably looking at a similar proportion of the population. </p>
<p>Few of us seek God sincerely to risk everything we have and everything we are for him. Few of us choose to follow the narrow winding path.<br />
The question is: when there is nobody around the corner waiting to set us on fire for our faith, to destroy our homes, to take our children, how do we really know where we stand?</p>
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		<title>Comment on MY God; MY Friend by Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Graham. Really well put.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Men speak by Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith is: accepting God&#039;s choice to condemn us; accepting God&#039;s choice to punish us; accepting God&#039;s choice to become the one punished instead of us; accepting God&#039;s choice to resurrect; accepting God&#039;s choice to save us from ourselves.

We can point to the &#039;accepting,&#039; and we can point to &#039;God&#039;s choice,&#039; that&#039;s your choice :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith is: accepting God&#8217;s choice to condemn us; accepting God&#8217;s choice to punish us; accepting God&#8217;s choice to become the one punished instead of us; accepting God&#8217;s choice to resurrect; accepting God&#8217;s choice to save us from ourselves.</p>
<p>We can point to the &#8216;accepting,&#8217; and we can point to &#8216;God&#8217;s choice,&#8217; that&#8217;s your choice <img src='http://fedbyravens.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Men speak by Hazel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hazel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God&#039;s will is for you to live in holiness and honor..1Thess 3,4. We can now live to please God this is made possible thru Jesus&#039; sufficient sacrifice. God&#039;s love revealed in the story of Jesus Christ is for everyone to hear, that is God&#039;s movement of love despite our lives. God&#039;s commitment towards humans is unfailing and yet we are simply called to believe. Does it take human initiative to say &#039;yes&#039; to the story of Christ? I believe so. It is further than that, it is saying a life time of &#039;yes&#039; God your will be done..Matt 7:21. I believe God is here despite of us knowing or acknowledging His presence, I think that we are immensely blessed as christians and at the same time it is not easy to do His will but if we do he does promise to bless and rewards us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God&#8217;s will is for you to live in holiness and honor..1Thess 3,4. We can now live to please God this is made possible thru Jesus&#8217; sufficient sacrifice. God&#8217;s love revealed in the story of Jesus Christ is for everyone to hear, that is God&#8217;s movement of love despite our lives. God&#8217;s commitment towards humans is unfailing and yet we are simply called to believe. Does it take human initiative to say &#8216;yes&#8217; to the story of Christ? I believe so. It is further than that, it is saying a life time of &#8216;yes&#8217; God your will be done..Matt 7:21. I believe God is here despite of us knowing or acknowledging His presence, I think that we are immensely blessed as christians and at the same time it is not easy to do His will but if we do he does promise to bless and rewards us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Men speak by Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes to the love of God continues. However we do not experience the full potential of God&#039;s love.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Men speak by Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 07:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The love of God continues towards us DESPITE our free-choice</description>
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		<title>Comment on Men speak by Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without free choice we are unable to experience the love of God</description>
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		<title>Comment on Men speak by Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN Tim!  Of course we make choices all the time.  Though the Holy Spirit was a guide to Paul the Apostle, Paul still made plenty of decisions along the way.  The point is that those choices are made within the realm of human possibility.  While the decisions God makes are divine, and far more significantly do they impact on us... I think for one reason... Sin.  Basically sin clouds our judgement, when it comes to love.  We have a repeating spiral of strange and unwise decisions... pretty obvious!  I believe the choices exploding from God&#039;s love towards us are the point.  His choice to sacrifice his Son!

I think free-will is sin-filled, and that is the point of the gospel message... that God rescued us from ourselves at a cost to himself...  That is what love is.

Do we have choices to make now? Yes.  And the consequences of our decisions, good or bad, continue to remind us of God&#039;s stand-alone righteousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN Tim!  Of course we make choices all the time.  Though the Holy Spirit was a guide to Paul the Apostle, Paul still made plenty of decisions along the way.  The point is that those choices are made within the realm of human possibility.  While the decisions God makes are divine, and far more significantly do they impact on us&#8230; I think for one reason&#8230; Sin.  Basically sin clouds our judgement, when it comes to love.  We have a repeating spiral of strange and unwise decisions&#8230; pretty obvious!  I believe the choices exploding from God&#8217;s love towards us are the point.  His choice to sacrifice his Son!</p>
<p>I think free-will is sin-filled, and that is the point of the gospel message&#8230; that God rescued us from ourselves at a cost to himself&#8230;  That is what love is.</p>
<p>Do we have choices to make now? Yes.  And the consequences of our decisions, good or bad, continue to remind us of God&#8217;s stand-alone righteousness.</p>
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